This is the fourth podcast featuring TV host Georgie Gardner. Georgie chats candidly with Hugh about the challenges of parenting, dealing with intense public scrutiny, the challenges of screens and disconnection and the pain of seeing her parents going through a divorce at a very young age.

Hugh and Ryan then go on to discuss:

  • Using gratitude to ‘lean in’ to joy and be comfortable with vulnerability
  • The negativity bias and how this impacts out day-to-day lives
  • Mindfulness- what it is and different ways to practice it
  • The psychology behind the state of ‘flow’


– Daring Greatly by Brene Brown

Lost Connections by Johann Hari

Vipassana meditation

The state of flow: Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi